Training Title 85 Name: Mrs. Carol Holliman Gender: female Age: 42 years old T- 98.0 P- 77 R 18 132/72 Ht 5’0 Wt 127lbs Background: Born and raised in Northern Ireland, parents brought her and her 5 sisters to U.S. when she was 15 to go to U.S. university where she met her husband. They live in Charleston, SC. She obtained her bachelor’s degree in education; no history of mental health or substance use treatment, no family history. Her husband reported a recent school shooting nearby 3 weeks ago “flipped a switch” in her. She is watching the news 24/7, barely sleeping, and even when she does, it is only a few hours, Appetite is decreased. Hx of hysterectomy, NKDA, no legal hx. Symptom Media. (Producer). (2017). Training title 85 [Video]. https://video-alexanderstreetcom.ezp.waldenulibrary.org/watch/training-title-85

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00:00:15

CAROL Sorry, I, I can’t find it.

00:00:20

OFF CAMERA It’s okay.

00:00:20

CAROL No, it’s not. Where is it? I never, I never leave without it. Oh Jesus.

00:00:30

OFF CAMERA What is it you’re looking for?

00:00:30

CAROL My cell. I never check the b. . . um, the trunk. I have to go.

00:00:45

OFF CAMERA You seem very upset not to have your phone with you.

00:00:50

CAROL Of course, who wouldn’t be? We’ll have to talk some other time.

00:00:55

OFF CAMERA Your husband must have his phone, he called that you were running late.

00:01:00

CAROL Yeah, he has his phone, but . . .

00:01:00

OFF CAMERA But what?

00:01:05

CAROL The children do not call their father when they want something.

00:01:10

OFF CAMERA They never call your husband?

00:01:10

CAROL No, they only call me.

00:01:10

OFF CAMERA Uh-huh, are you expecting your children to call?

00:01:15

CAROL My children are at home with the babysitter, my neighbor. She’s a widow. I just, I don’t feel comfortable, in case they need me. And I always call, they’ll be worried if I don’t.

00:01:35

OFF CAMERA How often do you call your children when you’re away from home?

00:01:40

CAROL I don’t know, a few times. Just normal checking.

00:01:45

OFF CAMERA Do you work?

00:01:45

CAROL I’m a mother, so yes, I work.

00:01:50

OFF CAMERA I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to suggest parenting isn’t work. It very much is work. Do you also have a job outside of the home?

00:02:00

CAROL I used to work from home. I quit my job after my last child, Colin, he’s five now. But, this really isn’t the time for this right now. Nor ever, really. I’m just here as a courtesy, no offense.

00:02:20

OFF CAMERA I understand you do not want to be here. But it would be helpful if we could talk for a few minutes. Perhaps your husband can call your children. Do you want me to go get him for you?

00:02:35

CAROL I’ll be fine. We can talk for five more minutes.

00:02:40

OFF CAMERA Thank you. You seem to have strong feelings that you want to call your children. But you do not have strong feelings that you want to ask your husband to call them.

00:02:50

CAROL He refuse. We don’t see eye-to-eye. But I’m not here for marriage counseling.

00:03:00

OFF CAMERA What is your understanding about why you’re here?

00:03:00

CAROL Ask my husband, Greg.

00:03:05

OFF CAMERA What current concerns do you have when you leave your children?

00:03:10

CAROL There’s a laundry list on that one. Start with serial rapists and end with Newtown, and you’ve only scratched the surface.

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OFF CAMERA How often do you worry about those types on incidents?

00:03:20

CAROL I’m mother of three. I have to keep in mind the world as it is. Part of my job description. Every day, people die from gun deaths. 18,000 people are raped. Over 50,000 children go missing every year.

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OFF CAMERA Those are unsettling statistics.

00:03:45

CAROL Dr. Phil did a profile on a serial rapist, that was horrifying. I called my friends to watch it. I TiVo’ed it for them.

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OFF CAMERA Do you follow a lot of news programs?

00:03:55

CAROL Yeah.

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OFF CAMERA What do you tend to watch?

00:03:55

CAROL Most of the shows. I have CNN on background for when I’m doing laundry or cooking, or prepping lessons.

00:04:05

OFF CAMERA Lessons, what lessons do you prepare?

00:04:10

CAROL For the children.

00:04:10

OFF CAMERA Oh, do you school your children at home?

00:04:15

CAROL Yes, I homeschool my children. I don’t appreciate your connotations. The stereotype that homeschooling is for religious nuts is outdated. The reality is our school systems are broken. Our public schools can’t even afford protection for our children.

00:04:35

OFF CAMERA Was that one of the reasons you decided to homeschool your children was because of school violence?

00:04:45

CAROL You mean… ?

00:04:45

OFF CAMERA Pardon?

00:04:45

CAROL Ridge View?

00:04:50

OFF CAMERA Yes, Ridge View, uh-huh.

00:04:50

CAROL 12 students murdered, three teachers gunned down trying to protect students. They couldn’t protect themselves. Campus police didn’t have time to stop it. That kid’s mother and father lay dead in their house for over a week before that school massacre. Today Show profiled the ex-girlfriend. She said there was plenty of warning signs. Did the administrators listen? No. No one was capable of seeing what was coming. Yet, their signs were obvious. That child murderer drew horrifying pictures in his art classes, and you know what the teachers said?

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OFF CAMERA No.

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CAROL The teachers defended him. Said his evil artwork was a school assignment. Yes, to answer your question. Yes, I think school violence is a reason for homeschooling children.

00:05:45

OFF CAMERA Do these violent events seem to stay with you, hang with you?

00:05:55

CAROL I see those children’s faces. They could have been my children. Greg is heartless. Instead of helping me protect our children, he sent me to a shrink.

00:06:15

OFF CAMERA Do you think that there are times where you over-worry?

00:06:25

CAROL I won’t lose my children.

00:06:25

OFF CAMERA Do you fear that similar violent events may happen here at these schools?

00:06:35

CAROL Ridge View is only 100 miles from here, 100. That may as well be one mile.

00:06:45

OFF CAMERA How long have you been homeschooling your children?

00:06:50

CAROL Two months.

00:06:50

OFF CAMERA So you began homeschooling them, so that was about a month after the Ridge View incident shootings?

00:07:00

CAROL Yeah. When I pulled the children from school, Greg and I had a big fight, but it’s for the best. The children are learning more now than they ever learned at school. They still socialize, they still have friends. Now, my girlfriends are considering doing the same with their children. They see how well mine are doing. My girlfriends are every bit as frightened as I was. This isn’t some sort of frantic phobia on my part. I’m an educated woman about these matters. Greg, doesn’t understand what it’s like to lose family.

00:07:50

OFF CAMERA Do you have stronger feelings about losing people than your husband does?

00:07:55

CAROL Yes, I do.

00:08:00

OFF CAMERA Have you lost people who were close to you?

00:08:05

CAROL My parents, car accident, drunk driver, I was 19.

00:08:10

OFF CAMERA Oh, I’m sorry to hear that.

00:08:15

CAROL It happens, like that. They’re gone. I won’t lose a child. I won’t lose more people I love.

00:08:25

OFF CAMERA Have these fears been increasing more recently for you? Preoccupying you, more of your time?

00:08:35

CAROL Yes. I think about what happened to me, to my parents, what could happen to my children.

00:08:50

OFF CAMERA What is it like to realize you cannot protect them all of the time?

00:09:00

CAROL That’s what Greg says.

00:09:05

OFF CAMERA Do you disagree with him?

00:09:10

CAROL You protect them from what you can. You stop what you can. I couldn’t prevent that driver from sideswiping my parents, pinning them to the freeway median. I can prevent another Adam Lanza from pointing a gun at my babies. I won’t send them back to school. I won’t turn off the television, and I won’t stop informing myself. I will do what I can as a mother to protect my children. I’m sorry, I have to end this now, and call my children. I’ll call them now.

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